Thought About Food Podcast

Jennifer Molidor on Just Food Systems and Sustainable Agriculture

September 29, 2021

This episode we spoke with Jennifer Molidor about food justice and sustainable agriculture, and how that can be pursued in public policy, activism, and changing individual diets. We also talk about pursuing alternatives to academic careers. It's a lot of fun, and really interesting.

Show Notes:

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  • Jennifer Molidor is a senior food campaigner at the Center for Biological Diversity. That organization also has a website devoted to food issues called Take Extinction Off Your Plate, and you can follow her on Twitter @JenniferMolidor
  • Jennifer was kind enough to share a recipe with us. It's a family-favorite vegan sandwich, and I can report it's great! Here's what she had to say:

    "I had a hard time choosing something, from power bowls to smoothies to my renowned guacamole, but I’ll go with a simple sammich because mom-life means a lot of sandwiches that are packed with protein and deliciousness. It’s a smushed chickpea sandwich and measurements are all to taste:

    • Toasted bread
    • Plant-based mayo
    • Lightly toasted mustard seeds
    • Dijon mustard
    • Small chopped red onion
    • Small chopped leek
    • 1 tsp Himalayan salt
    • 1 pinch black pepper
    • 1-2 cans of chickpeas, drained
    • 1 cup chopped celery
    • 1 cup chopped pickles
    • 4 cloves minced fresh garlic
    • 2 tsp apple cider vinegar
    • 2 tsp lemon juice
    • Pinch of cayenne


    Use flavors to taste, but be generous with salt and mayo. Mash chickpeas, mustard and mustard seeds, add in onions, garlic, leek, pickles, celery, and other spices (mash with fork or masher). Add in mayo, lemon juice, vinegar. Taste, adjust as necessary. If you want, you can add nori sheets or yeast to make it more savory/tuna-like. Add parsley or cilantro if you’re into that kind-a thing. This is great alone or in sandwiches and lasts a few days refrigerated. I add avocado slices and tomatoes on my sandwiches with this to keep it juicy."

  • The intro and outro music is "Whiskey Before Breakfast" which is both a great traditional song and a great starter before a chickpea sandwich in the morning. It was performed and shared by The Dan River Ramblers under a Creative Commons license.

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